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kaizoku ([personal profile] kaizoku) wrote2007-10-29 11:18 am

bdsm and squick

I posted this as a comment and then realized it sums up very well how I feel about bdsm in fanfiction.

Personally, I am not so much squicked out by what instruments are used as by the emotional tone of the story and the beliefs that the writer and/or the characters espouse. A lot of the time I will skip stories where there is "harder" BDSM (whipping, caning, etc.) because more often those kinds of stories tend to have relationship dynamics that squick me. (And b/c of it, I'm sure I've missed things I would have enjoyed.)

It also depends on how the dynamic is treated - e.g. if the story is non-con, is that seen as perfectly fine (because it's John and Rodney and they love each other, awww) or as something fucked-up (Kolya/Rodney for example)? If it's seen as something fucked-up, I probably will like the story. If not, well, there's the back button. If it's somewhere on the edge, I may or may not like it (Stockholm syndrome, yes; abusive relationship fic, no; "Oh, he was really jealous so it's okay", no.)

On the other hand, I have a secret love for (involuntary) sex slavery fic where the "master" ends up falling in love with the slave who hates him/her and they eventually establish a consentual relationship. A good example is Beauty and the Kitsune by Eternal Treasure (which Gundam Wing, Heero/Duo - I haven't read many of this type lately.)

Of course, as always, Your Kink Is OK, It's Just Not My Kink.

[identity profile] kaizoku.livejournal.com 2007-11-01 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I do read stories that squick me, especially if the story is intriguing or the writing is good. But if I know ahead of time that something is likely to squick me, I'll avoid it, sometimes to my detriment. The more I think about the word "squick" the more it seems like a big tangled-up knot of different reactions, not all of them unpleasant. Or maybe that's just me.

With UATRA, I think I got a little squicked out after the fact. Maybe because it hit close to home. Somewhat similar to reading Take Clothes Off As Directed - I went into kind of a mental tailspin for about a week after reading that.
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[identity profile] ladycat777.livejournal.com 2007-11-01 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
*nod* yeah, mental tail spins are bad and not to be encouraged, although knowing them in advance...

And I get what you mean by squick. It isn't always something bad, or gross, but it can be good but just uncomfortable, or too good -- too real -- for you to stay in the fictional frame of mind. I'm that way non-con. I do enjoy non-con (although in my head it's more 'forcing someone to enjoy it') in certain (fictional!) situations, and a good writer can make me squirm like crazy.

But I've read a lot of 'non-con' that were just out and out rape (in my head, there's a difference; I have a weird head) and sicken me, even if they still turn me on. I mean, okay, some of it's just bad. But some of the good stuff... I want to like it, I want to find it hot, but there are too many things that come from my head and my experiences and my own beliefs that trip me up.