SGA BDSM recs? You know, I think I meant to and never did. I should definitely change that. The task is somewhat daunting though! :-)
I don't think I've ever read non-con that was seen as perfectly fine.
I guess I was thinking mainly of "lifestyle" BDSM fics that have a non-consentual dynamic, for example where the sub doesn't give full consent. When the top assumes consent or thinks he knows what the sub needs better than the sub does. Sometimes to a limited extent that is okay for me, especially if it's "in scene" - it actually squicks me more when it's control exerted over the rest of the sub's life. For example, I tried to read Xanthe's General and Doctor story, gave up on it, then read Coming Home. Then I ended up going back and reading the parts of General and Doctor that were alt!universe John and Rodney (especially the sex, hehe.) I just couldn't stomach the relationship of SGA John and Rodney in it though, even - maybe especially - before they start having sex. (By the way, Xanthe is a great writer imho - her kinks are my squick is all.)
The other one I've seen sometimes is where C rapes A, and then A and B get together and B's only response to the rape is possessive rage/jealousy. I'm always like, "Wow, you totally missed the point." Unless, you know, that is the writer's point. But then we're dealing with evil!John - or at least fucked-in-the-head!John (or Rodney, or whoever.)
I have to admit to me it's not so much practices that I enjoy when reading kink, but the emotion behind it, giving oneself away/taking care of someone, that sort of thing. Which can happen in, say, a spanking fic, but can also not.
Agreed. I think (generally speaking) stories that focus more on the external struggle than the internal struggle are less interesting. I've been noticing that lately in stories that aren't really BDSM-oriented, which is exciting. That's something I think you get a lot more of in fanfiction than m/m erotica, too.
I have to admit I also have a thing for... well, "dubious consent", the sort of thing where A is drugged/possessed and B lets it happen, because he knows A isn't under control (and because he wanted A anyway). Makes for good guilty angst before the happy end.
Yes, indeed! I have a bit of a kink for sleepy-sex. And I should have said, I can tolerate being squicked to a point, especially if it's really good. ;-)
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Date: 2007-10-30 03:09 pm (UTC)I don't think I've ever read non-con that was seen as perfectly fine.
I guess I was thinking mainly of "lifestyle" BDSM fics that have a non-consentual dynamic, for example where the sub doesn't give full consent. When the top assumes consent or thinks he knows what the sub needs better than the sub does. Sometimes to a limited extent that is okay for me, especially if it's "in scene" - it actually squicks me more when it's control exerted over the rest of the sub's life. For example, I tried to read Xanthe's General and Doctor story, gave up on it, then read Coming Home. Then I ended up going back and reading the parts of General and Doctor that were alt!universe John and Rodney (especially the sex, hehe.) I just couldn't stomach the relationship of SGA John and Rodney in it though, even - maybe especially - before they start having sex. (By the way, Xanthe is a great writer imho - her kinks are my squick is all.)
The other one I've seen sometimes is where C rapes A, and then A and B get together and B's only response to the rape is possessive rage/jealousy. I'm always like, "Wow, you totally missed the point." Unless, you know, that is the writer's point. But then we're dealing with evil!John - or at least fucked-in-the-head!John (or Rodney, or whoever.)
I have to admit to me it's not so much practices that I enjoy when reading kink, but the emotion behind it, giving oneself away/taking care of someone, that sort of thing. Which can happen in, say, a spanking fic, but can also not.
Agreed. I think (generally speaking) stories that focus more on the external struggle than the internal struggle are less interesting. I've been noticing that lately in stories that aren't really BDSM-oriented, which is exciting. That's something I think you get a lot more of in fanfiction than m/m erotica, too.
I have to admit I also have a thing for... well, "dubious consent", the sort of thing where A is drugged/possessed and B lets it happen, because he knows A isn't under control (and because he wanted A anyway). Makes for good guilty angst before the happy end.
Yes, indeed! I have a bit of a kink for sleepy-sex. And I should have said, I can tolerate being squicked to a point, especially if it's really good. ;-)